Asthma and Smoking?
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>Susan, please try to bottom-post–It takes a while to get a handle on the >thread when it gets so cluttered. > Having trouble? > http://americanreadingglasses.com/
I don’t need them–you’ve always managed to make a spectacle of yourself here.
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>I don’t need them–you’ve always managed to make a spectacle of yourself >here.
I can’t see arguing with you.
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If you had kept smoking you might now be carrying Oxygen around all day. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > How long is long? I smoked for at least 10 years and I have asthma and I > almost have a year now, and I still have trouble breathing when I walk long > distances. I’m also in high altitude. > Debbie > f3as3 > Eleven months, two weeks, 16 hours, 0 minutes and 34 seconds. 10460 > cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,569.00. Life saved: 5 weeks, 1 day, 7 > hours, 40 minutes. > > Thank you for your replies, the symptoms have changed slightly over the > last > > week with now often feeling like there is just not enough oxygen in the > air > > ie mild suffocation. My chest and tubes feel free and normal but im just > > getting this craving for oxygen. Its not all the time but im getting > daily > > attacks. > > Any other thoughts? > > When does the cila (sp?) in your lungs start to regrow, could it be the > > start of this process? or should this be complete at 3 months? > > Im not sure that this thread is really relative to this newsgroup but > ill > > copy it to support.stop.smoking. > It’s the cilia in your bronchial tubes you have to worry about. Smoking > paralyzes them and if you smoked for a very long time they die and will > not > regrow. > So, if they’re only paralyzed they will revive but if they’re dead there’s > no bringing them back. > > any other thoughts would be appreciated. > > Fox > > > Hi hope you can help a newbie here. After finally giving up smoking (3 > > > months) after years of mild asthma suddenly over this last week my > asthma > > > has got worse. It feels like the bottom end of my lungs are no longer > in > > use > > > and the classic "breathing out against a brick wall.." has been > > exaggerated. > > > I was told that my lung function would improve after giving up smoking > but > > > the opposite seems to have happened! > > > I was wondering if anyone else had had experiences of this post > smoking > > and > > > whether I will in time get my previous better (if not perfect) lung > > function > > > back. > > > I know its stupid but at the moment it seems I was better off > smoking!! > > > Fox
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>I don’t need them–you’ve always managed to make a spectacle of yourself >here. > I can’t see arguing with you.
That’s a transparent reply, and a trifle unfocused. Perhaps you should have framed it differently. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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> Susan, please try to bottom-post–It takes a while to get a handle on the > thread when it gets so cluttered.
Hi Susan, I do not care if you top or bottom post, in fact I find top posting easier to deal with. If you, and I mean IF, want to change to bottom posting it is really easy. Click on edit and select Preferences. Under preferences click on Mail & Newsgroups, them click on messages. To the right there will be a drop-down menu where you can select where you want your reply to appear, above or below. If you are interested, I hope that this will help. sue
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Susan, please try to bottom-post–It takes a while to get a handle on the > thread when it gets so cluttered. > Hi Susan, > I do not care if you top or bottom post, in fact I find top posting > easier to deal with. If you, and I mean IF, want to change to bottom > posting it is really easy. Click on edit and select Preferences. Under > preferences click on Mail & Newsgroups, them click on messages. To the > right there will be a drop-down menu where you can select where you want > your reply to appear, above or below. If you are interested, I hope that > this will help.
What newsreader are you referring to? I don"t think you can do that with OE. — CBI, MD
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>> >I don’t need them–you’ve always managed to make a spectacle of yourself > >here. > I can’t see arguing with you. >That’s a transparent reply, and a trifle unfocused. Perhaps you should have >framed it differently.
Very well; I shall dilate myopic view and work on a revision… Look, I have trouble watching you brow-beat Susan. However, as the eyes have it, you are on the lookout for top posting, and I, for one, cannot see visualizing a blinkety-blink argument over such a short sighted issue.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Susan, please try to bottom-post–It takes a while to get a handle on > the > > thread when it gets so cluttered. > Hi Susan, > I do not care if you top or bottom post, in fact I find top posting > easier to deal with. If you, and I mean IF, want to change to bottom > posting it is really easy. Click on edit and select Preferences. Under > preferences click on Mail & Newsgroups, them click on messages. To the > right there will be a drop-down menu where you can select where you want > your reply to appear, above or below. If you are interested, I hope that > this will help. > What newsreader are you referring to? > I don"t think you can do that with OE.
I am using netscape, don’t know much about OE. sue
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> >I don’t need them–you’ve always managed to make a spectacle of yourself >> >here. >> I can’t see arguing with you. >That’s a transparent reply, and a trifle unfocused. Perhaps you should have >framed it differently. > Very well; I shall dilate myopic view and work on a revision… > Look, I have trouble watching you brow-beat Susan. However, as the > eyes have it, you are on the lookout for top posting, and I, for one, > cannot see visualizing a blinkety-blink argument over such a short > sighted issue.
I don’t wish to incur lashes over my preceding in-macula conception, but no pupil of human nature could doubt that it was taken out of cortex. It doesn’t take a visionary to see that I’m leer-y about this entire thread, and fovea information, Iris that I had never mentioned it.
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>I don’t need them–you’ve always managed to make a spectacle of yourself >here.
He is a showboat.
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>It doesn’t take a visionary to see that I’m leer-y about this entire thread, >and fovea information, Iris that I had never mentioned it.
Hind-sight is 20/20, and maybe you occular stare clear of a fuzzy viewpoint with no end in sight. See?
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>It doesn’t take a visionary to see that I’m leer-y about this entire thread, >and fovea information, Iris that I had never mentioned it. > Hind-sight is 20/20, and maybe you occular stare clear of a fuzzy > viewpoint with no end in sight. See?
Si.
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That is exactly what my doctor told me. Thanks. Debbie f3as3 Eleven months, two weeks, two days, 21 hours, 22 minutes and 12 seconds. 10526 cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,579.01. Life saved: 5 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 10 minutes.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you had kept smoking you might now be carrying Oxygen around all day. > How long is long? I smoked for at least 10 years and I have asthma and I > almost have a year now, and I still have trouble breathing when I walk long > distances. I’m also in high altitude. > Debbie > f3as3 > Eleven months, two weeks, 16 hours, 0 minutes and 34 seconds. 10460 > cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,569.00. Life saved: 5 weeks, 1 day, 7 > hours, 40 minutes. > > > Thank you for your replies, the symptoms have changed slightly over the > > last > > > week with now often feeling like there is just not enough oxygen in the > > air > > > ie mild suffocation. My chest and tubes feel free and normal but im just > > > getting this craving for oxygen. Its not all the time but im getting > daily > > > attacks. > > > Any other thoughts? > > > When does the cila (sp?) in your lungs start to regrow, could it be the > > > start of this process? or should this be complete at 3 months? > > > Im not sure that this thread is really relative to this newsgroup but > ill > > > copy it to support.stop.smoking. > > It’s the cilia in your bronchial tubes you have to worry about. Smoking > > paralyzes them and if you smoked for a very long time they die and will > not > > regrow. > > So, if they’re only paralyzed they will revive but if they’re dead there’s > > no bringing them back. > > > any other thoughts would be appreciated. > > > Fox > > > > Hi hope you can help a newbie here. After finally giving up smoking (3 > > > > months) after years of mild asthma suddenly over this last week my > > asthma > > > > has got worse. It feels like the bottom end of my lungs are no longer > in > > > use > > > > and the classic "breathing out against a brick wall.." has been > > > exaggerated. > > > > I was told that my lung function would improve after giving up smoking > > but > > > > the opposite seems to have happened! > > > > I was wondering if anyone else had had experiences of this post > smoking > > > and > > > > whether I will in time get my previous better (if not perfect) lung > > > function > > > > back. > > > > I know its stupid but at the moment it seems I was better off > smoking!! > > > > Fox > — > Amazing Grace’s Eclectic Quotation Collection > *93,000 quotations, proverbs, by people of all philosophies, ages and > cultures. For more info. or free sample of one category, send a personal > . . . Grace McGarvie . . . > . . Plymouth,Mn. 55447 U.S.A.
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> > The way it was explained to me is that it feels like it is getting worse but > what is happening is your addiction to cigarettes and their polutants have > to take time to get out of your system. UM MOM Susan > That is, of course, true of most of the discomfort after stopping smoking. > The gentleman was talking about increased wheezing, to which this > observation cannot apply. > Larry
Smoking and asthma. From what I have read. Comments please! While many mild asthmatics have discovered that cigarette smoking suppresses their asthma, I would like to point out what they are really doing to their lungs. The fact that COPD is usually attributed to smoking is a well established. Lung cancer is also a high risk possibility due to persistent tissue cell damage. The products drawn from a lighted cigarette includes over 4000 different gasses and particles at high temperature. Among the gasses are water vapor, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, ammonia, and many other more complex molecules. These particulates are even more numerous as many carbonacious compounds are produced by oxidising and breaking down the biological material in tobacco leaf. The important thing to note here is the small size of these particles which average 0.25 of a micron. A human hair averages about 8.0 microns diameter so is 32 times larger. The small size of particulates and gasses greatly assists their penetration of the broncho-trachial tree and fast tracking into the blood. That is why smoking is a popular means of drug consumption, nicotine and other mind altering molecules are addictive. The lung is a filter of the wet surface type. Its efficiency in this function is improved enormously by the warmth of the airway surface and the normal presence of cilia. These are small hair like protrusions that beat in a rhythmical mexican like wave that moves towards the trachea. The warm moist surface creates a blanket of water vapor close to the surface that interacts with particles in a special way. Particulates in the cooler inspired air present as condensation neuclei to this vapor. Condensation rapidly forms on these particles growing them in size. The cilia slow their movement and minimise their bouncing off the surfaces so that they are captured in a layer of mucus. This mucus then clears these materials from the airways by riding the ciliated wave towards the throat where it is usually swallowed. Smoking absolutely dissrupts this wonderful filter because the inhaled gasses are hot and condensation then does not occur. The majority of particles remain small and deeply penetrating. The effect on respiratory symptoms is masked by the moisture content in these inhaled gasses. Particles therefore penetrate almost unhindered to the alveoli where the most damage occurs. Type II cells that are the progenitors of the type I membrane cells are damaged and die. This destroys the lungs ability to control hydration a type II cell function, again the moisture in the cigarette gasses masks this function while smoking continues. Eventually when the smoker decides to quit, much confusion arises when respiratory problems due to this damage soon becomes evident. Bill Whitbourn, Student of the lung.
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> High altitude could be adding a lot to your problems. UM MOM Susan
Susan, please try to bottom-post–It takes a while to get a handle on the thread when it gets so cluttered.
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> When does the cila (sp?)
Cilium singular, cilia plural (usual).
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>Susan, please try to bottom-post–It takes a while to get a handle on the >thread when it gets so cluttered.
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So how long do they take to regrow – anyone know? Fox QOF —
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know I’m cross posting, and I apologize in advance, but the cilia do > regrow. Here is a link from the University of Michigan. Check out > the 1 to 9 months section. I know I’ve read it elsewhere, but this is > the first link I found … the body does undo most of the damage from > smoking in time. Not all, but most. Quitting is VERY worth it. :-) > http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/subabuse/tobacc09.htm > BTW, when I was diagnosed with hyperventilation, the doctor did 1) a > simple finger prick blood test for oxygen levels (which were normal) > 2) a lab blood test for CO2 levels and blood pH and 3) a chest x-ray > (which was clean). It is frightening to feel as if you can’t breath, > and if I were you I would talk to a doctor to rule out a serious > disorder, just so that you can ease your mind and focus on treating > this, and just in case. Meanwhile, look diaphragmatic breathing on > Google. It might help. It has helped me a LOT. up Good Luck. > Diane M. /back to NOT cross posting > > Thank you for your replies, the symptoms have changed slightly over the > last > > week with now often feeling like there is just not enough oxygen in the > air > > ie mild suffocation. My chest and tubes feel free and normal but im just > > getting this craving for oxygen. Its not all the time but im getting daily > > attacks. > > Any other thoughts? > > When does the cila (sp?) in your lungs start to regrow, could it be the > > start of this process? or should this be complete at 3 months? > > Im not sure that this thread is really relative to this newsgroup but ill > > copy it to support.stop.smoking. > It’s the cilia in your bronchial tubes you have to worry about. Smoking > paralyzes them and if you smoked for a very long time they die and will not > regrow. > So, if they’re only paralyzed they will revive but if they’re dead there’s > no bringing them back. > > any other thoughts would be appreciated. > > Fox
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High altitude could be adding a lot to your problems. UM MOM Susan
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> How long is long? I smoked for at least 10 years and I have asthma and I > almost have a year now, and I still have trouble breathing when I walk long > distances. I’m also in high altitude. > Debbie > f3as3 > Eleven months, two weeks, 16 hours, 0 minutes and 34 seconds. 10460 > cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,569.00. Life saved: 5 weeks, 1 day, 7 > hours, 40 minutes. > > Thank you for your replies, the symptoms have changed slightly over the > last > > week with now often feeling like there is just not enough oxygen in the > air > > ie mild suffocation. My chest and tubes feel free and normal but im just > > getting this craving for oxygen. Its not all the time but im getting > daily > > attacks. > > Any other thoughts? > > When does the cila (sp?) in your lungs start to regrow, could it be the > > start of this process? or should this be complete at 3 months? > > Im not sure that this thread is really relative to this newsgroup but > ill > > copy it to support.stop.smoking. > It’s the cilia in your bronchial tubes you have to worry about. Smoking > paralyzes them and if you smoked for a very long time they die and will > not > regrow. > So, if they’re only paralyzed they will revive but if they’re dead there’s > no bringing them back. > > any other thoughts would be appreciated. > > Fox > > > Hi hope you can help a newbie here. After finally giving up smoking (3 > > > months) after years of mild asthma suddenly over this last week my > asthma > > > has got worse. It feels like the bottom end of my lungs are no longer > in > > use > > > and the classic "breathing out against a brick wall.." has been > > exaggerated. > > > I was told that my lung function would improve after giving up smoking > but > > > the opposite seems to have happened! > > > I was wondering if anyone else had had experiences of this post > smoking > > and > > > whether I will in time get my previous better (if not perfect) lung > > function > > > back. > > > I know its stupid but at the moment it seems I was better off > smoking!! > > > Fox
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writes >Thank you for your replies, the symptoms have changed slightly over the last >week with now often feeling like there is just not enough oxygen in the air >ie mild suffocation. My chest and tubes feel free and normal but im just >getting this craving for oxygen. Its not all the time but im getting daily >attacks. >Any other thoughts? >When does the cila (sp?) in your lungs start to regrow, could it be the >start of this process? or should this be complete at 3 months? >Im not sure that this thread is really relative to this newsgroup but ill >copy it to support.stop.smoking. >any other thoughts would be appreciated.
Visit your doctor, if only for peace of mind. Do you have a peak flow meter? If so, do you use it? It may be your asthma medication needs further adjustment. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Fox > Hi hope you can help a newbie here. After finally giving up smoking (3 > months) after years of mild asthma suddenly over this last week my asthma > has got worse. It feels like the bottom end of my lungs are no longer in >use > and the classic "breathing out against a brick wall.." has been >exaggerated. > I was told that my lung function would improve after giving up smoking but > the opposite seems to have happened! > I was wondering if anyone else had had experiences of this post smoking >and > whether I will in time get my previous better (if not perfect) lung >function > back. > I know its stupid but at the moment it seems I was better off smoking!! > Fox
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> Thank you for your replies, the symptoms have changed slightly over the last > week with now often feeling like there is just not enough oxygen in the air > ie mild suffocation. My chest and tubes feel free and normal but im just > getting this craving for oxygen. Its not all the time but im getting daily > attacks. > Any other thoughts? > When does the cila (sp?) in your lungs start to regrow, could it be the > start of this process? or should this be complete at 3 months? > Im not sure that this thread is really relative to this newsgroup but ill > copy it to support.stop.smoking.
It’s the cilia in your bronchial tubes you have to worry about. Smoking paralyzes them and if you smoked for a very long time they die and will not regrow. So, if they’re only paralyzed they will revive but if they’re dead there’s no bringing them back. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> any other thoughts would be appreciated. > Fox > Hi hope you can help a newbie here. After finally giving up smoking (3 > months) after years of mild asthma suddenly over this last week my asthma > has got worse. It feels like the bottom end of my lungs are no longer in > use > and the classic "breathing out against a brick wall.." has been > exaggerated. > I was told that my lung function would improve after giving up smoking but > the opposite seems to have happened! > I was wondering if anyone else had had experiences of this post smoking > and > whether I will in time get my previous better (if not perfect) lung > function > back. > I know its stupid but at the moment it seems I was better off smoking!! > Fox
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> Thank you for your replies, the symptoms have changed slightly over the last > week with now often feeling like there is just not enough oxygen in the air > ie mild suffocation. My chest and tubes feel free and normal but im just > getting this craving for oxygen. Its not all the time but im getting daily > attacks. > Any other thoughts?
One can’t make a diagnosis at this distance, but what you describe is characteristic of hyperventilation syndrome. Try Googling that condition; I’m sure you will read of that set of symptoms. Larry
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I know I’m cross posting, and I apologize in advance, but the cilia do regrow. Here is a link from the University of Michigan. Check out the 1 to 9 months section. I know I’ve read it elsewhere, but this is the first link I found … the body does undo most of the damage from smoking in time. Not all, but most. Quitting is VERY worth it. :-) http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/subabuse/tobacc09.htm BTW, when I was diagnosed with hyperventilation, the doctor did 1) a simple finger prick blood test for oxygen levels (which were normal) 2) a lab blood test for CO2 levels and blood pH and 3) a chest x-ray (which was clean). It is frightening to feel as if you can’t breath, and if I were you I would talk to a doctor to rule out a serious disorder, just so that you can ease your mind and focus on treating this, and just in case. Meanwhile, look diaphragmatic breathing on Google. It might help. It has helped me a LOT. up Good Luck. Diane M. /back to NOT cross posting – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thank you for your replies, the symptoms have changed slightly over the > last > week with now often feeling like there is just not enough oxygen in the > air > ie mild suffocation. My chest and tubes feel free and normal but im just > getting this craving for oxygen. Its not all the time but im getting daily > attacks. > Any other thoughts? > When does the cila (sp?) in your lungs start to regrow, could it be the > start of this process? or should this be complete at 3 months? > Im not sure that this thread is really relative to this newsgroup but ill > copy it to support.stop.smoking. > It’s the cilia in your bronchial tubes you have to worry about. Smoking > paralyzes them and if you smoked for a very long time they die and will not > regrow. > So, if they’re only paralyzed they will revive but if they’re dead there’s > no bringing them back. > any other thoughts would be appreciated. > Fox
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How long is long? I smoked for at least 10 years and I have asthma and I almost have a year now, and I still have trouble breathing when I walk long distances. I’m also in high altitude. Debbie f3as3 Eleven months, two weeks, 16 hours, 0 minutes and 34 seconds. 10460 cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,569.00. Life saved: 5 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 40 minutes.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thank you for your replies, the symptoms have changed slightly over the > last > week with now often feeling like there is just not enough oxygen in the > air > ie mild suffocation. My chest and tubes feel free and normal but im just > getting this craving for oxygen. Its not all the time but im getting daily > attacks. > Any other thoughts? > When does the cila (sp?) in your lungs start to regrow, could it be the > start of this process? or should this be complete at 3 months? > Im not sure that this thread is really relative to this newsgroup but ill > copy it to support.stop.smoking. > It’s the cilia in your bronchial tubes you have to worry about. Smoking > paralyzes them and if you smoked for a very long time they die and will not > regrow. > So, if they’re only paralyzed they will revive but if they’re dead there’s > no bringing them back. > any other thoughts would be appreciated. > Fox > > Hi hope you can help a newbie here. After finally giving up smoking (3 > > months) after years of mild asthma suddenly over this last week my > asthma > > has got worse. It feels like the bottom end of my lungs are no longer in > use > > and the classic "breathing out against a brick wall.." has been > exaggerated. > > I was told that my lung function would improve after giving up smoking > but > > the opposite seems to have happened! > > I was wondering if anyone else had had experiences of this post smoking > and > > whether I will in time get my previous better (if not perfect) lung > function > > back. > > I know its stupid but at the moment it seems I was better off smoking!! > > Fox
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Thank you for your replies, the symptoms have changed slightly over the last week with now often feeling like there is just not enough oxygen in the air ie mild suffocation. My chest and tubes feel free and normal but im just getting this craving for oxygen. Its not all the time but im getting daily attacks. Any other thoughts? When does the cila (sp?) in your lungs start to regrow, could it be the start of this process? or should this be complete at 3 months? Im not sure that this thread is really relative to this newsgroup but ill copy it to support.stop.smoking. any other thoughts would be appreciated. Fox
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi hope you can help a newbie here. After finally giving up smoking (3 > months) after years of mild asthma suddenly over this last week my asthma > has got worse. It feels like the bottom end of my lungs are no longer in use > and the classic "breathing out against a brick wall.." has been exaggerated. > I was told that my lung function would improve after giving up smoking but > the opposite seems to have happened! > I was wondering if anyone else had had experiences of this post smoking and > whether I will in time get my previous better (if not perfect) lung function > back. > I know its stupid but at the moment it seems I was better off smoking!! > Fox
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