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How many of you in this group have been depressed with next to no feelings of happiness your entire lives? A lifetime of depression. How many have only been depressed a certain fraction of their lives and can remember what it was once like to feel happiness? Which is worse: -To have never known happiness or some sense of joy, so in effect not know what it is like and what you are missing. -Or to have once felt good feelings and laughter and to know how good things can be without depression but realize you may never experience the highs again. There are of course varying degrees and levels of depression. I myself can still remember the highs and good times which occured before my depression started 10 years ago. Strangely I often remember what it was like to be very happy when I am dreaming and asleep. I usually wake up in a cold sweat with my heart pounding thinking that I may never get back what I have lost. Ever. A shitty feeling, but there has to be some tiny spark of hope or optimism in me somewhere or I would have packed it in years ago. VanMan
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> A shitty feeling, but there has to be some tiny spark of hope or > optimism in me somewhere or I would have packed it in years ago.
dear VanMan, I am sorry to hear of your plight – i strongly believe that you have not been correctly treated and that is why you are still suffering after 10 years. Please find another doctor or reassess your medication. I have not been depressed, not one day, since taking lithium – it is a miracle drug in that respect – I have experienced deep grief at events of death etc., but not depression. I do not know what it is like to be depressed since taking the drug. That does not mean my life is perfect – I have problems, but depression is not one of them. Please find a doctor to get you the right drug, I don’t know what you are taking now. take care Squiggles
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Ahedoynia is the name for the condition you describe, VanMan.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> How many of you in this group have been depressed with next to no > feelings of happiness your entire lives? A lifetime of depression. > How many have only been depressed a certain fraction of their lives > and can remember what it was once like to feel happiness? > Which is worse: > -To have never known happiness or some sense of joy, so in effect not > know what it is like and what you are missing. > -Or to have once felt good feelings and laughter and to know how good > things can be without depression but realize you may never experience > the highs again. > There are of course varying degrees and levels of depression. I myself > can still remember the highs and good times which occured before my > depression started 10 years ago. Strangely I often remember what it > was like to be very happy when I am dreaming and asleep. I usually > wake up in a cold sweat with my heart pounding thinking that I may > never get back what I have lost. Ever. > A shitty feeling, but there has to be some tiny spark of hope or > optimism in me somewhere or I would have packed it in years ago. > VanMan
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> Ahedoynia is the name for the condition you describe, VanMan.
Thanks Steve and Squiggles, The term is "Anhedonia" which means simply loss of joy, I think almost anyone who suffers from depression experiences this. I have been through almost every available AD that has been marketed and am treatment resistant it seems, even once took a shot at the rTMS trials. I have been off all medications for around 4-5 years, and am relatively stable. No complete bottoming out or suicidal episodes. I was actually more interested to see how many people in this group have experienced a life long feeling of depression and if not when and how their depression started. VanMan
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In the last 13 years, I’ve spent 6 of them in major depression. The treatment resistant type. We did get lucky for a while, but then, boom, the floor would fall away. Carrie 
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> How many of you in this group have been depressed with next to no > feelings of happiness your entire lives? A lifetime of depression. > How many have only been depressed a certain fraction of their lives > and can remember what it was once like to feel happiness? > Which is worse: > -To have never known happiness or some sense of joy, so in effect not > know what it is like and what you are missing. > -Or to have once felt good feelings and laughter and to know how good > things can be without depression but realize you may never experience > the highs again. > There are of course varying degrees and levels of depression. I myself > can still remember the highs and good times which occured before my > depression started 10 years ago. Strangely I often remember what it > was like to be very happy when I am dreaming and asleep. I usually > wake up in a cold sweat with my heart pounding thinking that I may > never get back what I have lost. Ever. > A shitty feeling, but there has to be some tiny spark of hope or > optimism in me somewhere or I would have packed it in years ago. > VanMan
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Interesting question. I had Hodgkins in 1983 and had full torso radiation treatment. The only organs that were blocked from radiation were my kidneys. I received the so called maximum "safe" dose of radiation. Two years ago, within a few months, I was diagnosed with breast cancer, asthma and diabetes. It was confirmed by doctors that my asthma and breast cancer were almost certainly caused by the radiation that I had and now I wouldn’t have received the amount of radiation I received back in 1983. I am not obese but could stand to lose the proverbial 10-20 lbs. Could the radiation I received also have caused my diabetes? The doctors don’t know the answer to that one and I have not been able to find any information on that on the internet.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Sender: "Old Al" > The DCCT folks measured some average induction times. They >found an average insulin loss of 4% per year, and on the > average, a T2 lost control over their bG when they had lost >about 50% of their insulin capacity. > I just wanted to interject here what perhaps many of us already know, which is > that not everybody progresses according to the equations. For example, I’ve had > diabetes for 27 years now, Type 2 (and have always been thin-to-normal weight.) > It probably developed as the result of a course of Prednisone, combined with a > raging infection, but it never fully "went away." I totally ignored the > diabetes until 10 years ago, and have been on orals since then, albeit > progressively adding more types. My only complication thus far showed up 2 > years ago: slight numbness under my toes. I know I’ve been lucky. But my point > is, assuming that I understand the stated progression, by that equation I > should’ve needed insulin at least 15 years ago. It’s important that people pay > attention to the word "average", because if the study included people like me, > then it would also have had to include people who progressed very, very > quickly. To coin a phrase, your mileage may vary. > Regards — > Elissa > Type 2
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Sender: "Old Al" > The DCCT folks measured some average induction times. They >found an average insulin loss of 4% per year, and on the > average, a T2 lost control over their bG when they had lost >about 50% of their insulin capacity. >I just wanted to interject here what perhaps many of us already know, which is >that not everybody progresses according to the equations. For example, I’ve had >diabetes for 27 years now, Type 2 (and have always been thin-to-normal weight.) >It probably developed as the result of a course of Prednisone, combined with a >raging infection, but it never fully "went away." I totally ignored the >diabetes until 10 years ago, and have been on orals since then, albeit >progressively adding more types. My only complication thus far showed up 2 >years ago: slight numbness under my toes. I know I’ve been lucky. But my point >is, assuming that I understand the stated progression, by that equation I >should’ve needed insulin at least 15 years ago. It’s important that people pay >attention to the word "average", because if the study included people like me, >then it would also have had to include people who progressed very, very >quickly. To coin a phrase, your mileage may vary. >Regards — >Elissa >Type 2
Your case is one of the fascinating ones which does meet one of the medical hypotheses, i.e. ". . .It is thought that we can manipulate the averages by diet, exercise, . . ." Many T2’s hope to "freeze" the progression by losing weight, and/or low carb diets, etc. You seem to be one of the examples which is the basis for this hope. Also, your situation probably violates the rules used to evaluate an "average" progression. Prednisone amplifies bG problems in insulin resistant people, (as does pregnancy). The prednisone could have acted as a special diagnostic marker years before a routine physical would have caught a bG too high because of "Progression". Prednisone as an early warning tool is a fascinating hypothesis in its own right. Perhaps docs should order bG’s whenever they prescribe prednisone for any illness in order to ferret out folks "at-risk" for T2. None of this, of course, detracts from your comments on "average". Regards Old Al (T1 since 94, 38 units H + U via 4 injections daily) A retired engineer who hopes to freeze any progressions detected in his at-risk daughter-in-law or grandson.
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I’ve been following the thread and it seems to me that when I first was diagnosed, I had just put on about 15 pounds and that seemed to be enough to trigger my insulin sluggishness or resistance or whatever,,,,all I know is that after going to a hematologist for over a year FBS each and every month and no mention of creeping up BS it was announced to me one day on a routine visit that I have diabetes. When I think of the harm I did myself by not knowing but I can’t beat up on myself. This is all water under the bridge as they say. The move to Florida-the "early bird specials" where rolls,dessert and all were included with the price of a really nice dinner for very little money, we were retired and ate out often…in those days I ate everything including whipped cream on all the desserts and sometimes eating the left over part of my husband’s dessert as well.
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200 gm of carbs ! !…. holy s*** batman…. that’s too many and NPH sucks…… try to get UL so that you can have an even basal dose for metabolic needs and reduce those carbs so that the Humalog has a chance of catching them i’m t1…… i can eat about a MAX of 150 gm of carbs a day….. and i eat a write me with the NO SPAM removed….. are you in Calgary??? — k t1 14 yr – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >You guessed it NPH and … better even,… lets milk them islets till >they squeal with by adding 10mg of glyburide BID and fatten this boy up >with at least 200 gm of carbs too! Whoopeee ! >d. > sounds like you are on NPH from hell, Delbert……. is this correct? > — > k t1 14 yr > >I’m pretty brittle just now (if that term is still in use). Chipping > >at the highs and sugaring the lows. Sorta like purgatory.
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>amplifies bG > problems in insulin resistant people, (as does pregnancy).
You mean my six kids caused my diabetes? I knew they caused gray hair, flabby tummy, aches in the back/heart/mind, etc, but diabetes? Wait until I tell them that! Age 73, type 2 for 10 plus years…
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sounds like you are on NPH from hell, Delbert……. is this correct? — k t1 14 yr – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I’m pretty brittle just now (if that term is still in use). Chipping >at the highs and sugaring the lows. Sorta like purgatory.
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hi blatzo, I don’t think there is any real time frame. For some it is that magic weight you get to that triggers it more than the number of years you have been overweight. (That is what happened to me.) I have an aunt who has been very overweight all her life and just now at age 63 developed diabetes. Some overweight ppl will not get diabetes at all. I know several with fairly normal weights that have type 2. I also know some that are overweight and have been for a long time and recent tests have found NO diabetes. It is very individual and genetic factors play a big roll along with weight. If your friend is worried about getting diabetes the best thing she can do is lose some weight. I know 2 diabetic gals who were very obese and losing 50-80 lbs. still left them very overweight, but with normal blood sugars. Dixie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > hi all, > I’ve got a friend that is very overweight, she’s asked me what the time > frame is to develop T2 > as to how long she’s been overweight? > Like once you are "overweight" does it take 1yr, 5yrs, 10yrs to develop > Diabetes? I’ve done some > searching on the web and haven’t been able to find anything. I know they say > you could have diabetes > up to 7yrs prior to really knowing.. so i’m guessing you’d have to be > overweight for more then 5-7yrs > to develop it. Right? > any info mucho appreciated > — > r. > (T2…… nope fooled another doctor ~!~ T1 (Lantus/H) My Bday Gift!)
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> . . . [snip]. . .My >Endo calls it a "non-classical presentation of Type 1". It was
fast for the first year then a 2 year plateau….even glyburide seemed to work >more or less… now its pickin’ up speed again. . . . [snip]. . .I do have Type 1 relatives and although he explained it isn’t hereditary it does seem to cluster in some families, but there is no explanation as it is "classically an auto-immune disorder" . . . >d.
Not too different from my case (Oops! He’s a T1). Glucophage and the beta stimulators should work for a while for many of the same reasons that they work on T2’s, i.e. T2’s present when they lose too much beta capacity. . .you and I presented when we lost too much beta capacity. Glucophage manages glucose release from the liver which is useful for both types. I was surprised when I first saw the comments that T1 is not hereditary. I was first exposed to T1 by a family in which every child and grandchild of one of the ancestors became T1, all of them adult-onset in their early 20’s to their early 50’s. I thought it worked that way for everybody. Regards Old Al (T1 since 94, 38 units H + U via 4 injections daily)
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arg.. i’m sorry had a brain fart obviously, my friends family has a HUGE history of t2’s her grandfather on mothers side died from complications, and fathers mother passed same way she has 3 aunts that have it also. she is the only one of the 6 kids that is overweight. I’m talking 6′1 at 280 (yes its a woman) as well as she’s been told she glucose intolerant (err think that whats she said.) the doc has her on glucophage now, with no testing. (i already bitched about the testing part). — r. (T2…… nope fooled another doctor ~!~ T1 (Lantus/H) My Bday Gift!)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> hi all, > I’ve got a friend that is very overweight, she’s asked me what the time > frame is to develop T2 > as to how long she’s been overweight? > Like once you are "overweight" does it take 1yr, 5yrs, 10yrs to develop > Diabetes? I’ve done some > searching on the web and haven’t been able to find anything. I know they say > you could have diabetes > up to 7yrs prior to really knowing.. so i’m guessing you’d have to be > overweight for more then 5-7yrs > to develop it. Right? > any info mucho appreciated > — > r. > (T2…… nope fooled another doctor ~!~ T1 (Lantus/H) My Bday Gift!)
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> hi all, > I’ve got a friend that is very overweight, she’s asked me what the time > frame is to develop T2 > as to how long she’s been overweight?
The only answer, surely, is "it varies from person to person, but the majority of overweight people never develop diabetes". The statistics on weight and diabetes are that the higher a person’s BMI, the higher the probability they will develop diabetes. But there are still some severely obese people who do not develop diabetes, because there is a genetic component, and they don’t have it. But at the bottom of this – why does your friend want to know? If she is thinking "I’ve got x years before I need to do something about my weight", she might as well play Russian roulette. But at the same time, don’t play the guilt card – it is not inevitable that she will get diabetes. I was convinced I was too young to get diabetes, despite my great weight….. till I got it. Barbara
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. .[snip]. . .the doc has . . .with no testing. (i already bitched about the [no] testing part). >r.
Another reason for the existence of the diabetes newsgroups: to give us the know-how to bitch when our friends get obsolete care. Regards Old Al (T1 since 94, 38 units H + U via 4 injections daily)
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<> Another reason for the existence of the diabetes newsgroups: > to give us the know-how to bitch when our friends get obsolete > care.
AMEN~! — r. (T2…… nope fooled another doctor ~!~ T1 (Lantus/H) My Bday Gift!)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > . .[snip]. . .the doc has . . .with no testing. > (i already bitched about the [no] testing part). >r. > Another reason for the existence of the diabetes newsgroups: > to give us the know-how to bitch when our friends get obsolete > care. > Regards > Old Al (T1 since 94, 38 units H + U via 4 injections daily)
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This is a very different question. A person with a family history of T2 AND a diagnosis of insulin resistance is at great risk for diabetes. Fat or not. My theory is that that person should start acting as if they already have the disease. Food plan and exercise. Then they may stave off diagnosis for as long as possible. Jennifer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > arg.. i’m sorry had a brain fart obviously, my friends family has a HUGE > history of t2’s > her grandfather on mothers side died from complications, and fathers mother > passed same way > she has 3 aunts that have it also. she is the only one of the 6 kids that is > overweight. I’m talking > 6′1 at 280 (yes its a woman) > as well as she’s been told she glucose intolerant (err think that whats she > said.) the doc has her > on glucophage now, with no testing. (i already bitched about the testing > part). > — > r. > (T2…… nope fooled another doctor ~!~ T1 (Lantus/H) My Bday Gift!) > hi all, > I’ve got a friend that is very overweight, she’s asked me what the time > frame is to develop T2 > as to how long she’s been overweight? > Like once you are "overweight" does it take 1yr, 5yrs, 10yrs to develop > Diabetes? I’ve done some > searching on the web and haven’t been able to find anything. I know they > say > you could have diabetes > up to 7yrs prior to really knowing.. so i’m guessing you’d have to be > overweight for more then 5-7yrs > to develop it. Right? > any info mucho appreciated > — > r. > (T2…… nope fooled another doctor ~!~ T1 (Lantus/H) My Bday Gift!)
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>Sender: "Old Al" > The DCCT folks measured some average induction times. They >found an average insulin loss of 4% per year, and on the > average, a T2 lost control over their bG when they had lost >about 50% of their insulin capacity.
I just wanted to interject here what perhaps many of us already know, which is that not everybody progresses according to the equations. For example, I’ve had diabetes for 27 years now, Type 2 (and have always been thin-to-normal weight.) It probably developed as the result of a course of Prednisone, combined with a raging infection, but it never fully "went away." I totally ignored the diabetes until 10 years ago, and have been on orals since then, albeit progressively adding more types. My only complication thus far showed up 2 years ago: slight numbness under my toes. I know I’ve been lucky. But my point is, assuming that I understand the stated progression, by that equation I should’ve needed insulin at least 15 years ago. It’s important that people pay attention to the word "average", because if the study included people like me, then it would also have had to include people who progressed very, very quickly. To coin a phrase, your mileage may vary. Regards — Elissa Type 2
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But this is about insulin loss that’s AFTER a person becomes diabetic. You asked how long after someone becomes fat do they get diabetes. Not the same question. Jennifer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Thanks Al.. > — > r. > (T2…… nope fooled another doctor ~!~ T1 (Lantus/H) My Bday Gift!) > >well.. there has to be some form of an answer, since if your thin then > >become overweight, you dont > >become diabetic overnight. > >there is even evidence that T1’s loose islet cells over time, its not you > >wake up with it. > >– > >r. > >(T2…… nope fooled another doctor ~!~ T1 (Lantus/H) My Bday Gift!) > The DCCT folks measured some average induction times. They > found an average insulin loss of 4% per year, and on the > average, a T2 lost control over their bG when they had lost > about 50% of their insulin capacity. > Slide 6 in the speech: > The Progression and Natural History of Diabetes, > at: > http://diabetes.medscape.com/43201.rhtml?srcmp=endo-092801 > given by an Endo at the annual ADA convention this year suggests that: > a. "something" starts, > b. after 5 years "it" starts to damage the arteries, > c. after another 5-7 years, "it" is detected when the symptom > "high bG" arises > These are averages for naive UK subjects. It is thought that > we can manipulate the averages by diet, exercise, and perhaps > metformin, Avandia and Altrace. "It" has a genetic base and is > cued by weight gain and less-than-optimal exercise levels. > Regards > Old Al (T1 since 94, 38 units H + U via 4 injections daily) > A retired engineer who reads up on this stuff because he > is worried about his grandson who inherited a whole bunch of > T2 genes from "the other grandparents"
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Thanks Al.. — r. (T2…… nope fooled another doctor ~!~ T1 (Lantus/H) My Bday Gift!)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->well.. there has to be some form of an answer, since if your thin then >become overweight, you dont >become diabetic overnight. >there is even evidence that T1’s loose islet cells over time, its not you >wake up with it. >– >r. >(T2…… nope fooled another doctor ~!~ T1 (Lantus/H) My Bday Gift!) > The DCCT folks measured some average induction times. They > found an average insulin loss of 4% per year, and on the > average, a T2 lost control over their bG when they had lost > about 50% of their insulin capacity. > Slide 6 in the speech: > The Progression and Natural History of Diabetes, > at: > http://diabetes.medscape.com/43201.rhtml?srcmp=endo-092801 > given by an Endo at the annual ADA convention this year suggests that: > a. "something" starts, > b. after 5 years "it" starts to damage the arteries, > c. after another 5-7 years, "it" is detected when the symptom > "high bG" arises > These are averages for naive UK subjects. It is thought that > we can manipulate the averages by diet, exercise, and perhaps > metformin, Avandia and Altrace. "It" has a genetic base and is > cued by weight gain and less-than-optimal exercise levels. > Regards > Old Al (T1 since 94, 38 units H + U via 4 injections daily) > A retired engineer who reads up on this stuff because he > is worried about his grandson who inherited a whole bunch of > T2 genes from "the other grandparents"
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And all the people that I know with diabetes type ones are skinny malinks loretta America will stand strong and always be the home of the brave and the land of the free..
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> hi all, > I’ve got a friend that is very overweight, she’s asked me what the time > frame is to develop T2 > as to how long she’s been overweight? > Like once you are "overweight" does it take 1yr, 5yrs, 10yrs to develop > Diabetes? I’ve done some > searching on the web and haven’t been able to find anything. I know they say > you could have diabetes > up to 7yrs prior to really knowing.. so i’m guessing you’d have to be > overweight for more then 5-7yrs > to develop it. Right?
It doesn’t work that way. Some people are overweight for their entire life and never get diabetes. Other people are not overweight at all and get it. — Type 2 http://www.redshift.com/~juliebove/
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>well.. there has to be some form of an answer, since if your thin then >become overweight, you dont >become diabetic overnight. >there is even evidence that T1’s loose islet cells over time, its not you >wake up with it. >– >r. >(T2…… nope fooled another doctor ~!~ T1 (Lantus/H) My Bday Gift!)
The DCCT folks measured some average induction times. They found an average insulin loss of 4% per year, and on the average, a T2 lost control over their bG when they had lost about 50% of their insulin capacity. Slide 6 in the speech: The Progression and Natural History of Diabetes, at: http://diabetes.medscape.com/43201.rhtml?srcmp=endo-092801 given by an Endo at the annual ADA convention this year suggests that: a. "something" starts, b. after 5 years "it" starts to damage the arteries, c. after another 5-7 years, "it" is detected when the symptom "high bG" arises These are averages for naive UK subjects. It is thought that we can manipulate the averages by diet, exercise, and perhaps metformin, Avandia and Altrace. "It" has a genetic base and is cued by weight gain and less-than-optimal exercise levels. Regards Old Al (T1 since 94, 38 units H + U via 4 injections daily) A retired engineer who reads up on this stuff because he is worried about his grandson who inherited a whole bunch of T2 genes from "the other grandparents"
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Thin people get T2 also. Jennifer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > well.. there has to be some form of an answer, since if your thin then > become overweight, you dont > become diabetic overnight. > there is even evidence that T1’s loose islet cells over time, its not you > wake up with it. > — > r. > (T2…… nope fooled another doctor ~!~ T1 (Lantus/H) My Bday Gift!) > > hi all, > > I’ve got a friend that is very overweight, she’s asked me what the time > > frame is to develop T2 > > as to how long she’s been overweight? > Many many fat people do not get diabetes. So there is no answer to this > at > all. > Jennifer
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>there is even evidence that T1’s loose islet cells over time, its not you >wake up with it.
Juvenile Diabetes, Type 1, does happen rather quickly. the onset is dramatic and the studies I’ve read say that the immune system turns on the beta cells and they are attacked as antibodies. This process might take a little while to happen, but when it does the symptoms appear rather quickly. A person could possibly do a Glucose Tolerant Test and be absolutely normal one month and then the next month be diagnosed as having Type 1. anna t
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> hi all, > I’ve got a friend that is very overweight, she’s asked me what the time > frame is to develop T2 > as to how long she’s been overweight?
Many many fat people do not get diabetes. So there is no answer to this at all. Jennifer
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well.. there has to be some form of an answer, since if your thin then become overweight, you dont become diabetic overnight. there is even evidence that T1’s loose islet cells over time, its not you wake up with it. — r. (T2…… nope fooled another doctor ~!~ T1 (Lantus/H) My Bday Gift!)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> hi all, > I’ve got a friend that is very overweight, she’s asked me what the time > frame is to develop T2 > as to how long she’s been overweight? > Many many fat people do not get diabetes. So there is no answer to this at > all. > Jennifer
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> Like once you are "overweight" does it take 1yr, 5yrs, 10yrs to develop > Diabetes? I’ve done some > searching on the web and haven’t been able to find anything. I know they say > you could have diabetes > up to 7yrs prior to really knowing.. so i’m guessing you’d have to be > overweight for more then 5-7yrs > to develop it. Right?
blatzo, While being overweight is definately counterproductive when one is diabetic and it may help diabetes to manifest itself, it is not the cause of diabetes. (it might be A cause) but being overweight alone will not cause one to develope diabetes. there are bunches of other problems that can come from being overweight. I know a whole bunch of very large folks that are not nor probaably will ever be diabetic. They might well develope heart desease but that another question. Carl D — Sweet Home, Chicago
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hi all, I’ve got a friend that is very overweight, she’s asked me what the time frame is to develop T2 as to how long she’s been overweight? Like once you are "overweight" does it take 1yr, 5yrs, 10yrs to develop Diabetes? I’ve done some searching on the web and haven’t been able to find anything. I know they say you could have diabetes up to 7yrs prior to really knowing.. so i’m guessing you’d have to be overweight for more then 5-7yrs to develop it. Right? any info mucho appreciated — r. (T2…… nope fooled another doctor ~!~ T1 (Lantus/H) My Bday Gift!)
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Does anybody know if accutane is a permanent solution to acne, or the acne grows back once you stop taking the medication?
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>Does anybody know if accutane is a permanent solution to acne, or the acne >grows back once you stop taking the medication?
It’s important to know that we have no known cure for acne. Accutane works differently for different people.
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How long does it take for a pimple to form? -Lucky
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6 weeks to 3 months. But you can aggrivate a pimple thats already forming very quickly with sweat/dirt/irritation making it appear quicker, alst longer, and look grosser – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->How long does it take for a pimple to form? >-Lucky
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Does anybody know if accutane is a permanent solution to acne, or the acne grows back once you stop taking the medication?
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>Does anybody know if accutane is a permanent solution to acne, or the acne >grows back once you stop taking the medication?
It’s important to know that we have no known cure for acne. Accutane works differently for different people.
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How long does it take for a pimple to form? -Lucky
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6 weeks to 3 months. But you can aggrivate a pimple thats already forming very quickly with sweat/dirt/irritation making it appear quicker, alst longer, and look grosser – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->How long does it take for a pimple to form? >-Lucky
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