COPD and asthma are they the same?
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Just want your knowledge on this, my research shown that doctors can’t agree on definitions! some include asthma in COPD others don’t. AT
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> Just want your knowledge on this, my research shown that doctors can’t > agree on definitions! some include asthma in COPD others don’t.
COPD has at least two different diseases: chronic bronchitis and emphysema. You can have both, with one of them more severe than the other. And either or both can co-exist with inflammation of the airways, which is considered asthmatic. That seems to be my situation. While my pulmonary function test was negative for asthma, and my symptoms (chronic cough with daily sputum production) resemble chronic bronchitis, Flovent has helped me a great deal–as if I had true asthma, which I don’t. For folks like me who have chronic bronchitis with an inflammatory/asthmatic component, inhaled steroids can help, even though our primary complaint isn’t actual asthma. Weird. — Steven D. Litvintchouk Disclaimer: As far as I am aware, the opinions expressed herein are not those of my employer.
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Hi Yes, Steven it’s weird, i can’t fix my mind on what is my real deasease. I was tested whit metacholine and react at 2.72mcg, my allergist Dx chronic rhinitis and asthmatic bronchitic chronic? My examination talk about light deasease of the obstructive deasease in small airways, but it wasn’t specified if it’s emphysema, chronic bronchithic or simply asthma, i’ve made a lot of search but there’s no consensus in medical area. Now i’ve done the test after 2 years of medication, on a day i was feeling so well, the sypmtoms and pulmo. capacity had increase but i’m still decompensated day to day. So that’ why i ask the board if there any difference when your doc talk about obstructive desease or asthma. Thanks, good to exchange whit good peoples. AT – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just want your knowledge on this, my research shown that doctors can’t > agree on definitions! some include asthma in COPD others don’t. > COPD has at least two different diseases: chronic bronchitis and > emphysema. You can have both, with one of them more severe than the > other. And either or both can co-exist with inflammation of the > airways, which is considered asthmatic. > That seems to be my situation. While my pulmonary function test was > negative for asthma, and my symptoms (chronic cough with daily sputum > production) resemble chronic bronchitis, Flovent has helped me a great > deal–as if I had true asthma, which I don’t. > For folks like me who have chronic bronchitis with an > inflammatory/asthmatic component, inhaled steroids can help, even though > our primary complaint isn’t actual asthma. Weird. > — > Steven D. Litvintchouk > Disclaimer: As far as I am aware, the opinions expressed > herein > are not those of my employer.
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Hi, I’m very impress about all this knowledge you have! I’m still learning, The Dx is about an obstructive deasease in small airways. When i have an atack all the result get down very quickly, FEV, VEMS ETC….What i’m worried about is the FEF25%, FEF 50%, FEF 75%, the part of test that regards smal airways, it get down also but i can’t get them back at a good level, they go as low as 41% to 50% and only get back around 60%- 64%. I’m looking the meaning of this, can it be the result of an only partly reversible obstruction and the beginning of something else than ordinary asthma? Thank you, good to exchange whit you all. AT. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Steven has certainly put the difference as succinctly as possible, I too > have what is now called COPD and with Emphysema, having been first (8 years > ago) been diagnosed with Asthma with some Bronchitis, as time went by tests > revealed that the problem was in fact Chronic Bronchitis with Emphysema now > called COPD, > ‘Tis a funny old world is it not > Best wishes to you Keep smiling and breathe easy > William > Hi > Yes, Steven it’s weird, i can’t fix my mind on what is my real deasease. I > was tested whit metacholine and react at 2.72mcg, my allergist Dx chronic > rhinitis and asthmatic bronchitic chronic? My examination talk about light > deasease of the obstructive deasease in small airways, but it wasn’t > specified if it’s emphysema, chronic bronchithic or simply asthma, i’ve > made > a lot of search but there’s no consensus in medical area. Now i’ve done > the > test after 2 years of medication, on a day i was feeling so well, the > sypmtoms and pulmo. capacity had increase but i’m still decompensated day > to > day. So that’ why i ask the board if there any difference when your doc > talk about obstructive desease or asthma. > Thanks, good to exchange whit good peoples. > AT > > > Just want your knowledge on this, my research shown that doctors > can’t > > > agree on definitions! some include asthma in COPD others don’t. > > COPD has at least two different diseases: chronic bronchitis and > > emphysema. You can have both, with one of them more severe than the > > other. And either or both can co-exist with inflammation of the > > airways, which is considered asthmatic. > > That seems to be my situation. While my pulmonary function test was > > negative for asthma, and my symptoms (chronic cough with daily sputum > > production) resemble chronic bronchitis, Flovent has helped me a great > > deal–as if I had true asthma, which I don’t. > > For folks like me who have chronic bronchitis with an > > inflammatory/asthmatic component, inhaled steroids can help, even though > > our primary complaint isn’t actual asthma. Weird. > > — > > Steven D. Litvintchouk > > Disclaimer: As far as I am aware, the opinions expressed > > herein > > are not those of my employer.
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>Chronic asthma is also a Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease is it not?
It’s reversible with the right treatment e.g. it is chronic yes, but only obstructive when out of control. That might be because incorrect treatment is being given, correct treatment is not being taken, or the asthma is hard-to-treat. AFAIK COPD is *not* reversible. >I have had nightly attacks from my early teens until age 56, I presume this is >classed as chronic.
Sure do. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Before my teens I had EIA attacks with some nocturnal symptoms. >I don’t have this anymore!!! due to breathing technique, age almost 60. >Bill >r.videotron.net… > Hi > Yes, Steven it’s weird, i can’t fix my mind on what is my real deasease. I > was tested whit metacholine and react at 2.72mcg, my allergist Dx chronic > rhinitis and asthmatic bronchitic chronic? My examination talk about light > deasease of the obstructive deasease in small airways, but it wasn’t > specified if it’s emphysema, chronic bronchithic or simply asthma, i’ve made > a lot of search but there’s no consensus in medical area. Now i’ve done the > test after 2 years of medication, on a day i was feeling so well, the > sypmtoms and pulmo. capacity had increase but i’m still decompensated day to > day. So that’ why i ask the board if there any difference when your doc > talk about obstructive desease or asthma. > Thanks, good to exchange whit good peoples. > AT > > > Just want your knowledge on this, my research shown that doctors can’t > > > agree on definitions! some include asthma in COPD others don’t. > > COPD has at least two different diseases: chronic bronchitis and > > emphysema. You can have both, with one of them more severe than the > > other. And either or both can co-exist with inflammation of the > > airways, which is considered asthmatic. > > That seems to be my situation. While my pulmonary function test was > > negative for asthma, and my symptoms (chronic cough with daily sputum > > production) resemble chronic bronchitis, Flovent has helped me a great > > deal–as if I had true asthma, which I don’t. > > For folks like me who have chronic bronchitis with an > > inflammatory/asthmatic component, inhaled steroids can help, even though > > our primary complaint isn’t actual asthma. Weird. > > — > > Steven D. Litvintchouk > > Disclaimer: As far as I am aware, the opinions expressed > > herein > > are not those of my employer.
– Five Cats
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>Chronic asthma is also a Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease is it not?
COPD is typically regarded as having a nonreversible component. "They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Newton But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown." Carl Sagan
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> Just want your knowledge on this, my research shown that doctors can’t > agree on definitions! some include asthma in COPD others don’t. > AT
You can find very good definitions at GINA (http://www.ginasthma.com) and GOLD (http://www.goldcopd.com) Asthma is characterized by airway inflammation associated with respiratory symptoms, airways hyperresponsinveness and reversible airflow limitation. COPD (chronic obstructive pulomonary disease)is characterized by airways limitation that is not fully reversible; airway inflammation may result in obstructive bronchiolitis and emphysema. In the elderly asthma may superimpose upon or result in COPD. Measurement of spirometry, measurement of airway responsiveness, measurement of the level of airflow limitation and its reversibility, measurement of lung volumes and diffusing capacity may be recommended. Sometimes upper airways diseases or GERD (gastro esopagheal reflux disease) may aggravate asthma or COPD.
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Steven has certainly put the difference as succinctly as possible, I too have what is now called COPD and with Emphysema, having been first (8 years ago) been diagnosed with Asthma with some Bronchitis, as time went by tests revealed that the problem was in fact Chronic Bronchitis with Emphysema now called COPD, ‘Tis a funny old world is it not Best wishes to you Keep smiling and breathe easy William
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi > Yes, Steven it’s weird, i can’t fix my mind on what is my real deasease. I > was tested whit metacholine and react at 2.72mcg, my allergist Dx chronic > rhinitis and asthmatic bronchitic chronic? My examination talk about light > deasease of the obstructive deasease in small airways, but it wasn’t > specified if it’s emphysema, chronic bronchithic or simply asthma, i’ve made > a lot of search but there’s no consensus in medical area. Now i’ve done the > test after 2 years of medication, on a day i was feeling so well, the > sypmtoms and pulmo. capacity had increase but i’m still decompensated day to > day. So that’ why i ask the board if there any difference when your doc > talk about obstructive desease or asthma. > Thanks, good to exchange whit good peoples. > AT > > Just want your knowledge on this, my research shown that doctors can’t > > agree on definitions! some include asthma in COPD others don’t. > COPD has at least two different diseases: chronic bronchitis and > emphysema. You can have both, with one of them more severe than the > other. And either or both can co-exist with inflammation of the > airways, which is considered asthmatic. > That seems to be my situation. While my pulmonary function test was > negative for asthma, and my symptoms (chronic cough with daily sputum > production) resemble chronic bronchitis, Flovent has helped me a great > deal–as if I had true asthma, which I don’t. > For folks like me who have chronic bronchitis with an > inflammatory/asthmatic component, inhaled steroids can help, even though > our primary complaint isn’t actual asthma. Weird. > — > Steven D. Litvintchouk > Disclaimer: As far as I am aware, the opinions expressed > herein > are not those of my employer.
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Chronic asthma is also a Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease is it not? I have had nightly attacks from my early teens until age 56, I presume this is classed as chronic. Before my teens I had EIA attacks with some nocturnal symptoms. I don’t have this anymore!!! due to breathing technique, age almost 60. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi > Yes, Steven it’s weird, i can’t fix my mind on what is my real deasease. I > was tested whit metacholine and react at 2.72mcg, my allergist Dx chronic > rhinitis and asthmatic bronchitic chronic? My examination talk about light > deasease of the obstructive deasease in small airways, but it wasn’t > specified if it’s emphysema, chronic bronchithic or simply asthma, i’ve made > a lot of search but there’s no consensus in medical area. Now i’ve done the > test after 2 years of medication, on a day i was feeling so well, the > sypmtoms and pulmo. capacity had increase but i’m still decompensated day to > day. So that’ why i ask the board if there any difference when your doc > talk about obstructive desease or asthma. > Thanks, good to exchange whit good peoples. > AT > > Just want your knowledge on this, my research shown that doctors can’t > > agree on definitions! some include asthma in COPD others don’t. > COPD has at least two different diseases: chronic bronchitis and > emphysema. You can have both, with one of them more severe than the > other. And either or both can co-exist with inflammation of the > airways, which is considered asthmatic. > That seems to be my situation. While my pulmonary function test was > negative for asthma, and my symptoms (chronic cough with daily sputum > production) resemble chronic bronchitis, Flovent has helped me a great > deal–as if I had true asthma, which I don’t. > For folks like me who have chronic bronchitis with an > inflammatory/asthmatic component, inhaled steroids can help, even though > our primary complaint isn’t actual asthma. Weird. > — > Steven D. Litvintchouk > Disclaimer: As far as I am aware, the opinions expressed > herein > are not those of my employer.
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