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Advise on dealing with my physician

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Question:

> you don’t have a clue > Hmmm. Takena while thinkg about this, but can you clarify why you say > this, since even my doctor is satisfied that needing 2 puffs of ventolin, > twice a week, is acceptable, but not fully stable, control of my asthma.

The post is already off my news reader and I don’t specifically remember the details. Nor am I sufficiently interested to look it up on Google. I’m sure the full statement was much longer than the five words you have quoted and I’m sure it is out of context since I would agree that needing albuterol only twice weekly reflects adequate control. Perhaps this selective and misrepresented quote reflects that I was right, whatever it was that I was referring to. — CBI, MD

Response:

> you don’t have a clue

Hmmm. Takena while thinkg about this, but can you clarify why you say this, since even my doctor is satisfied that needing 2 puffs of ventolin, twice a week, is acceptable, but not fully stable, control of my asthma. — Paul Cummins – Always a Nethead          |  /"    ASCII RIBBON Wasting bandwidth since 1981             +   /      CAMPAIGN Tel: 07021 117179  Fax: 07092 105150     |   X   AGAINST HTML MAIL

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How ever may I ask is there a doctor in this small world that will listen . Ones I ran into have one thing in mind $  .   How many people they can see . pardon the spelling . Doctor make me feel like a slab of meat in a buter shop . However  am glad  asthma I not as bad as it was forty years ago . Mind you am not sayying there as been no death from asthma , because there has . I have only had one bad attack  and do not want to live that again .  Am getting off track here but I lostmy brother to cancer . because of a doctor mistake in his call . And Donald was only 4 1/2 years old at the time   Not that I do not trust Doctor ,I do , but they or human too . Ask you dr if you do not understand and ask till you do or find another that will be of more help . Life to short live it to your best .

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->If you don’t think your >doctor listens to you and consequently you refuse to listen to her then the >best bet is to find one you do respect; > Absolutely.

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> How ever may I ask is there a doctor in this small world that will listen . > Ones I ran into have one thing in mind $  .   How many people they can see . > pardon the spelling . Doctor make me feel like a slab of meat in a buter > shop .

My guess is that you won’t be getting many answers from the doctors in this group.      Larry

Response:

> For the record, being given a drug that causes me asthma attacks is no > longer an option. Becotide has been worsening my asthma when taken as a > single, non-combined dose. My doctor won’t even discuss Flixotide as an > alternative.

OK, success. I went to the Chest Clinic today, and was taken off Ventolin and Becotide, ‘permanently’ The Chest Clinic specialist listened to my feelings and concerns, and my comments about Ventide, and decided to try me on Symbicort for control and Bricanyl for relief. The Symbicort is 2 ‘puffs’ twice a day, as against 2 puffs 4 times a day with Becotide, IOW, i can take it as a get up and as I go to bed, and just carry a single inhaler during the day, which suits me down to the ground Bricanyl seems to give me relief of an attack far quicker than Ventolin ever did, and I didn’t have any issue with Dry Powder delivery systems, so I’m a lot happier. Thanks to all for their advice. — Paul Cummins – Always a Nethead          |  /"    ASCII RIBBON Wasting bandwidth since 1981             +   /      CAMPAIGN Tel: 07021 117179  Fax: 07092 105150     |   X   AGAINST HTML MAIL

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>OK. Can you give me one good reason why I should listen to her if she >won;t listen to me?

Very good reply as I think this is the case with most doctors. Will be interesting to see the reply.

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> My advice for dealing with your doctor: Listen to him. It is pretty > clear > that you don’t have a clue and that you should defer to one who does. > OK. Can you give me one good reason why I should listen to her if she > won;t listen to me?

Even doctors are not supposed to doctor themselves. It is considered unwise. I don’t think you should expect to fare better. If you don’t think your doctor listens to you and consequently you refuse to listen to her then the best bet is to find one you do respect; not to try to figure it out yourself with the aid of a few anonymous people on usenet. — CBI, MD

Response:

>If you don’t think your >doctor listens to you and consequently you refuse to listen to her then the >best bet is to find one you do respect;

Absolutely.

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> >If you don’t think your >doctor listens to you and consequently you refuse to listen to her > then the >best bet is to find one you do respect; > Absolutely.

Er… my original query said:- > I’ve asked for a second opinion,

                   ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ > but what arguments can I use to present that this control:- > 1) Works for me, medically and > 2) fits into my lifestyle conveniently

IOW, I know my doctor and I don’t see eye-to-eye and I have challenged her judgement, so what do I say to the second doctor to make him/her see my viewpoint? For the record, being given a drug that causes me asthma attacks is no longer an option. Becotide has been worsening my asthma when taken as a single, non-combined dose. My doctor won’t even discuss Flixotide as an alternative. — Paul Cummins DD (ULC) – Thanks to TCA    |  /"    ASCII RIBBON Tel: 07021 117179  Fax: 07092 105150     +   /      CAMPAIGN Email: paul(at)cummins.ie.eu.org         |   X   AGAINST HTML MAIL UCE not welcome,

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